On that last post (sic!) things are hotting up. There is definately a woman involved with Drai-Kop (so to speak) and now Lost Hope has come riding up on his white steed and taken her side. I'm sure I know the lady: she is the ring-leader of the Women's Prayer Sessions at the Wall, disguised on this blog as a mere woman, hence "inferior", and clearly she should never have been let out of her kitchen. Don't you agree, Drai-Kop?
Meanwhile while Mr. Blogs is out, I am availing myself of the opportunity to bring him some wifely nachos and talk about the Gedolim who want to stop the yeshiva bochurim being conscripted into the IDF. (Has anyone seen my profile?) I say, of course these men shouldn't have to leave their yeshivos! How dare the secular, Zionist, charedi-bashers try to steer these virtuous young men into army life? Being a soldier wasn't what brought about the liberation of Yerushalyim in 1967; walking 7 times around the walls is what did it (and blowing the shofar of course). No, if the government has any sense, it will conscript the WOMEN.
Think about it: if women are inferior, and they get shot on the front-line, big deal. If they are superior, they won't be on the front-line so they won't get shot. If they are equal, they can at least learn a new skill that will help them earn more money when they return to civilian life and they will then be better able to support their devout men-folk in a neat division of labour (divided between the women, I mean). In fact I am amazed the women from Belz, Viznitz, Sans etc don't feel offended by the State's ignoring them in this humiliating way. It is as if the Israeli government would rather have some youth who can only think (in Yiddish) about life 1000 years ago, than have a young woman who has practical front-line management skills, is used to giving and receiving orders, is willing to shave her head AND has no time for night clubs anyway. Doesn't make sense. Discrimination is what this is. Charedi Women Demand The Right To Enlist.
SH Lost hope from mobile
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drai-kop
ReplyDeleteIt does happen to be parshas zachor this week. It is only really meant for those going to FIGHT amalek. Today all women seem to think they have also to go and as you say they are only suitable for canon fodder.
Does anyone happen to know if Drai-kop is married? What are the odds? And assuming he is, and that he has kids, does anyone think they are all boys? Or that he used the girls in the brick work?
ReplyDeleteMore importantly, does anyone think he should be conscripted into the Russian Army, never mind the IDF, and sent to the front line along with the other canon fodder? I don't! I think he should be the next Chief Whip.
Lady
ReplyDeleteI am a new reader of your blog. I have read through all your posts from the very first one to this one, and to be honest I feel sorry for your husband. You are not frum, you are the yetzer hara incarnate. All you do is laugh and criticise the traditions that make up Yiddishkeit, and some people believe that without this way of life we hand success on a plate to Hitler y"sh. So don't knock it. You should be helping to defend it, to make us stronger. Not seeing yourself as a charedi-basher. We don't need you to show us how to live our lives- this is what our rebbeim do for us. You are welcome to live in the moderneh velte, but leave us out of it. A freiliche pirim.
Drai-kop
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We don't need you to show us how to live our lives- this is what our rebbeim do for us.
Since you seem to hold so much of your 'rebbeim' can you please tell us who they are. Especially the ones who have allowed you on the net. I gather you are chasidish, and I am sure all the 'rebbeim' are on the net even your own. They are more into the 'moderneh velte' than you or Ms Blogs will ever be. They keep a 'freiliche pirim' a ganz yahr.
If you are already here why not do a bit of kiruv work on Ms Blogs. Its not her fault for the way she is. And calling her names, is not 'ahavas yisroel'. She is asking and doing her best, to at least try to understand, which of your 'rebbeim' says she should be treated the way you do.
Weird things going on at IYTU comments have all vanished from last 2 blog posts that is 500+ comments. Is the beginning of the end? Is this a purge by the secret service?
ReplyDeletethis is a comment posted on the Ch conspiracy blogspot;
Rumors in town are that Rabbi Knopfler and Rabbi Abrams are somewhat involved in the fightback.
Supposedly, the Pinters from YH have offered RCH 1,000,000 pounds to bring down the Blogger IYTU...
boy o boy perhaps we are next? just waiting for the knock on the door by the CH thought police
JUST BEEN POSTED ON TICKLE
ReplyDeleteAs you all know this site has been the subject of legal action. We have no intention of boring you with the details but a few things must be said.
There is a court order for Google Inc to disclose the IP address of the owner of this blog as well as of certain 'named' commenters which are based in the EU. The pseudonyms of the affected comments are listed below and those concerned should urgently seek legal advice.
"The official FISHEL"
"non-apikores"
"Betrayed Former Supporter"
"Hersh"
"M055AD"
"Playing with fire"
"Shia"
"Ger - (woman with brain)"
"Be a Mentch!"
"DSM IV 302.89"
"Kazuhide Uekusa"
"Antwerpian"
"Stamford Hill'er"
"Ben Tzion"
"Laurence Davis"
"Velvel"
"The Curtain Falls"
"Simche"
"r''l"
"r"l strikes again"
"Avi"
"now I understand"
In addition there are the following "Anonymous" posts which are also subject to the Order:
18/11/12 19:07
20/11/12 07:35
20/11/12 08:55
21/11/12 01:28
22/11/12 00:00
25/11/12 18:51
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Those affected can write to ifytulegaldefence@hushmail.com for some assistance.
A number of those affected by the order have already obtained legal advice and as a result of that advice all comments have been removed from the posts dealing with the Halpern saga, to protect those that have commented. While only a fraction of the comments could potentially be defamatory, the numbers are such that it would be too time consuming to sift through them and delete just those that could be problematic. Hopefully with time and crowd sourcing the questionable comments can be removed and the remaining comments restored.
Make no mistake however: this blog is not going away. This debate has always been primarily about the scandalous failure and hypocrisy of the UOHC's entire rabbinical and lay leadership from the very top down and for which no one has to date taken any responsibility. No libel law in the world will stop this blog from saying that. Comments on this and related matters will continue to be published though due to legal constraints there will be heavier editing which will result in comments taking longer to get through.
Finally we would like to thank the very many people who have offered support in every form, including financial, legal, technological, moral and spiritual. It is heartening to know that we have the backing of a sizeable community willing to stand up for the truth. We may appeal to you in the near future for contributions to a legal fighting fund and information will be posted accordingly.
This has never been a case of Golders Green against Stamford Hill, Chasidim against Litvaks, LBD against Kedassia or Modern Orthodox versus Ultra Orthodox. This is a campaign of decency against thuggery, justice against injustice and truth against obfuscation, deceit and outright lies. It may take long and it will be tough but the people behind this campaign will see it through to the end and will fight for what is just and right.
Our motto to this campaign is:
והדרך צלח ורכב על דבר אמת וענוה צדק ותורך נוראות ימינך - תהילים מה, ד
And in thy majesty prosper, ride on in the cause of truth and meekness and righteousness; and let thy right hand teach thee awesome things. (Psalms 45,4)
Drai-kop
ReplyDeleteI suppose I must thank Tickle for not accepting many of my posts since now my name is not on the list. I cant see Ms Blogs name either, although they are only the first list till December. Although he uses 'mighty' words he has learnt his lesson and most likely will be unable to fund anything against RCH and google. His posters offering him thousands were most likely written by himself. His name is public knowledge so I cant see his problem of wasting money that it shouldnt come out. His posters are a different story altogether. They all posted anonymously, many most likely who dont want others to know they have an internet, or as someone there already said from work, where their goyishe bosses will be reading now what they wrote, will all be having a hard time. This is enough revenge for RCH even if he is guilty.
Mr. Drai-kop, it is not Tickle (whoever he is - I have no idea) who you need to thank, it is HKBH Above who has saved you from yourself, again.
DeleteIt is unlikely you will find Mrs.Blogs on the list because I am a woman, and we are exempt and posul as you know. In other words the libel laws don't apply to us.
The thing about your comment that I find most surprising is the revelation that people have been outed as internet users. The implication of this is that the rabbonim are only listened to when the people decide to listen (in public at least), and the rest of the time everyone does what suits them. So if a rov says "no" to the army, and that suits most bochurim probably, then the army is forbidden. But if a rov says "no" to the internet, which is even more of a spiritual danger than the army, then the internet is just moved underground and everyone uses it for their own purposes for better or for worse. Excellent! I like this form of yiddishkeit. It means public homage to the Rebbes etc, and the private exercise of free will in matters of modern life.
So the status of women (in this yiddishkeit) is not so dire, in reality!!
Just for the record, in our house I wear the trousers.
Drai-kop
ReplyDeleteNot so sure how you can prove you are a woman on Tickle's blog especially since you wear trousers.
You have to realise that rabbis are not popes and cant just say what they like. The previous lady is also on the net.
I don't really wear trousers; I wear skirts and dresses and long robes, and a snood. And occasionally army fatigues and a helmet, but that's for work.
DeleteIf anyone needs proof that I'm a woman, I have reliable dental records.
But if a rov says "no" to the internet, which is even more of a spiritual danger than the army, then the internet is just moved underground and everyone uses it for their own purposes for better or for worse. Excellent! I like this form of yiddishkeit. It means public homage to the Rebbes etc, and the private exercise of free will in matters of modern life.
ReplyDeleteI couldnt have said it better myself.
As for those poor souls who are going to be exposed as hypocrytes for a) being on the net b) abusing their work computers in my humble opinion they are no better than CH.
Leading a double life whilst paying homage to a corrupt charedi establishment ....hell let them be exposed and lets get them all conscripted
They deserve to lose their parnosos and their status, in what way are they any different from hagaon htsadik hamenuval
I'm blogging to myself the while, since everyone else has gone into hiding.
ReplyDeleteAs for you, Mr. Blogs, you could do a lot worse than leave that last potato on your plate so yes, you can leave the table. And take your screaming off-spring with you. I need the kitchen, for blogging and baking.
Before we were distracted with other matters, we were talking about charedi conscription into the IDF. The gedolim are quite rightly afraid of the consequences of their yungerleit being exposed to army culture, women and heaven knows what. They may be lead off the derech, or perhaps be captured, killed or worse.
None of the other sections of Israeli society are bothered about their young men and women being called up. They don't mind at all. None of them, not one, has anything to lose by their youth being drafted into defending the country. The charedim, however, stand to lose all.
Moreover, the State is a creation of the Zionists - it is not Hashem's wish, which will be fulfilled with the coming of moshiach.
This explains why charedim rely on the protection of the Zionist army at the kotel, to remove all the trouble-makers so that they can daven there in peace. What a good job there is an army (to defend the rights of the charedim at the kotel). Shame none of them see fit to support it in its wider purpose, of making the country safe for all yidden from around the world.
Gedolei Yisroel?? Not at all. In what way are they Gedolim?? Have they brought credit or scorn on their followers?? They could have done some good in the velte; but they have led the people down the path of confrontation and divisiveness. Where does "godol" come from?? Only the beard length. But as I say, I'm blogging to myself this evening.
http://www.efrayimpadwa.simplesite.com/
ReplyDeleteFor those who can read hebrew.
An invitation to the foundation stone laying of a new chasidish synagogue or shtibel in HMP Holloway.
Where a minyan of women will also be welcome. So Ms Blogs, equality at last.
Would be grateful if you could elaborate as not been successful in accessing this post.
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